And we are ready to continue on with this show. And it is indeed a show in many respects, as you have heard. But we have also said, and you have heard many times from various sources: get ready, for the end of this show is going to be spectacular! Just hang in there, okay?
We are ready for your questions if you have them. You can unmute your phones now and speak out if you have question here.
Very good energy here, by the way. Very good energy, indeed, as we are preparing this room, this area that we are here in at this time. We are preparing this for your next Advance. And those of you that may not know what Advance we are speaking of, it used to be called ‘retreats.’ We do not call them that anymore, because you are not moving away or retreating from anything. You are moving ahead in your ascension process. So we are preparing this space, this area, for a great celebration that is coming when you are here, both physically, and when you are here participating in audio-video type of situation here, through your Zoom Conference, as we understand it.
Anyway, we are ready for your questions if you have them.
Guest: Hello. I was wondering if you could sort of turn the tables, such as if you were us listening to the call, and we were you, being the Ascended Masters, what questions would you ask of us?
OWS: That is a very interesting type of way of looking at things. But we cannot look at it in that respect because are not you. And you are not us. You are working to become us, though.
This is all part of the training here that you are working through, to become the Ascended Ones. To be in the situation that we find ourselves in now, that you are moving rapidly to becoming as well, where you will assist. Many of you will decide to hang back, we will say here. You will ascend, you will go through it, and you will be the Ascended Ones, but you will come back and assist many to then move forward in the next waves of ascension that will be possible and potential here on this planet.
We will also say that we have been there, done that, and will not want to do it again. Understand this? We have been in your situation before. Many of us have had incarnations here on this planet. We have been various individuals at various times. We have experienced much of what you are experiencing. And we are not wanting to do it again here at this time, you see? So we cannot quite answer your question as you are asking it, because we would not necessarily ask those same questions that you are. Perhaps Shoshanna can give …
We do not have.
OWS: Okay, then. I hope this helps you a little bit here, even though it may not have been what you were looking for. But as you know, when you ask your questions, we do not necessarily give the answers that you are wanting to hear, only that you need to hear at various times.
Shoshanna: We wish to contribute here.
Shoshanna: Dear Brother, may we ask a question of you?
Guest: Of course.
Shoshanna: Dear Brother, what would you wish us to ask you?
Guest: The way to proceed, the proper way to do it, to make sure that we will ascend the way that we already planned it before we reincarnated.
Shoshanna: I see, Dear Brother. And we would say that the human consciousness in the third dimensional realm does not understand patience, does not understand timing, and wishes for all to occur quickly. What we would tell you is that you are all on your journey to ascension and to experience ascension. But it is not your human timing, you see. It is divine timing. What we will tell you is do all that you can to engage in listening to that which is your higher guidance, your Higher Self, spend human time engaging with your Higher Self, and understand completely that all you are doing along your path is purposeful and will lead you to the correct conclusion of divine consciousness. Namaste.
OWS: Very good. We are ready for the next question if there is one.
Guest: I have a question, please.
OWS: My question is, it keeps being said that we are going to ascend, and then we are going to come back. Now if our bodies are not moving up or going anywhere, what does it mean by ‘coming back’? I think I know, but I’m not quite sure how to put it into words. But what does that mean when you all keep saying some of us will make a choice to come back and help the second wave?
OWS: We’re speaking of this in terms of as you move through the veil, we will say here, or move through the ascension and become the ascended ones, that you are freely able then to move on from there, as many of you may decide to do, at least for a bit of time, which we call ‘R & R,’ rest and relaxation. And some of you, though, will continue to want to follow and be of service here. And you will then be able to easily fall back into the lower dimensional frequencies again, and not lose yourself in it though, you see? That is the difference here. You will not lose yourself back here again. You will just simply be able to freely go back and forth between the dimensional frequencies, because you will still be a part of this evolution here. Unlike where some of us, we do not come back into these lower frequencies. Not because we are afraid of losing ourselves within them, but there is no reason at this time yet to do that. But you will find a reason, because you will come back for your loved ones. Many of you will decide to do that, and others will not. That will be up to you. Freedom of choice, you see? Shoshanna, do you have anything to add to that?
Shoshanna: We find that this one who is speaking has a deeper question that she is not asking. So we would ask that she ask the deeper question.
Guest: Yes, (laughs), I do, but it’s hard for me to put it into words to get even myself to understand. Like we come back to help awaken people, like our families. We can do it in words, or we can do it in a day, and then go back. Like I want to be with my Loved One, my Beloved One. I don’t want to leave him again. So I can just keep going back and forth and still be here to help the next wave or whoever. That is true, right?
Shoshanna: Dear Sister, we will add a perspective here, if we may. May we add a perspective here?
Guest: I would love it. Yes.
Shoshanna: Dear Sister, what you feel in this moment in time is based on a third-dimensional consciousness and a third-dimensional point of view, you see. You will not feel that. You will not feel lost. You will not feel disconnected. You will not feel separate past the third-dimensional realm. Once an individual achieves divine consciousness, they understand completely that they are fully connected to whomever they wish to be connected to, as the discovery of oneness is clear. As the idea of true oneness with each and every being in the universe is crystal clear, you see.
So what you feel now is more of a program feeling from this third-dimensional realm that has these abandonment programs and lost programs, and disconnect programs that are running through the third-dimensional consciousness. These programs are false. They are not true, you see. So once you pass this consciousness of the third realm that weisghs you down, you will not have any disconnected feelings, you see. And you will be free to, what they say, move about the universe. And that which you call Your Beloved One will be there in a snap of your finger. You will never lose connection, because you will understand connection, you see. Namaste.
OWS: Very good. Very good.
Guest: Well thank you. (Laughs) That’s over my head a lot, but not too much. I guess I just have to be patient.
Shoshanna: Dear One, it is not over your head. That is not true. It is simply foreign to most to understand that this realm is heavy! And you will be released from that. This is what you need to know. Namaste.
Guest: Okay. Thank you so much.
OWS: Very good. Are there any further questions here?
Guest: Yes. Hello Dear Ones. First of all, I want to say, for the message of KaRa and everything, what I was expressing was never an intention to leave this Earth, or kill myself, or anything like that. But what I have been considering is I feel like I’ve done so much, have done my part and put a lot into the collective, and put a lot into writing, and consciousness, and all this. And can’t I just do something to push myself through the ascension process and get to the other side? Isn’t there a way to do that? Because I feel I am a pretty high frequency around here, higher than anybody else around me, so can’t I just do that? Isn’t there a way to just do that?
OWS: Of course. You could do that any time. It is almost as if you can click your heels three times and be home, you see? There is nothing that keeps one from having to go through all of the turmoil and the travails and all of that that you have gone through. And we can say this because we did it. We, being the now the Ascended Ones, were once not ascended. And we went through the process of being able to find our ascension without having to go through a collective ascension as you are doing here. So it is always possible. You could do it any time you want to.
But, the programming from your third-dimensional consciousness and all that is associated with this third-dimensional illusion keeps you here and keeps you struggling through all of this, you see? You do not need to struggle. But you believe you need to struggle, so therefore you are doing so, you see? And we are speaking directly to you who is asking this question because you are feeling like you are very much struggling at this time. And we are telling you that you do not need to do that. You need to let go and let your Higher God Self move you through this. There may be some struggles, and there will yet still be some travail, but the more that you can let go of all that, the easier it will become for you. Okay? Shoshanna?
Shoshanna: We have a perspective here. May we share, Dear Sister?
Guest: Yes, please.
Shoshanna: Dear Sister, the beings of this third-dimensional consciousness are attached, you see. There is a very strong pull to be attached. And if one does not recognize that and pull away from attachments, they will continue to be attached, you see.
Now, you say that you wish to move on. But you will not. You will not move on until you detach yourself from your current circumstances, you see. All that you do, if we may give this perspective, needs to be to unattach yourself. And, this is so strong that you can have someone offer you a mansion to step into! And you will not take the offer because you are living in attachment, you see. We apologize for this directness. However, this is what all are living through that cannot unearth themselves from the pain and frustration of the third-dimensional conscious mind. It is only attachment, and you must, if you wish to move on, let go. Namaste.
OWS: If you want to ascend, then let go of all attachments. That is how it works.
Guest: Well, thank you Dear. Actually, Susan is the first call that I plan to make after this call. That’s already taken care of. But thank you, I appreciate it.
Shoshanna: Dear Sister, may we add?
Guest: Yes, you can add.
Shoshanna: Dear Sister, you must not at this piont in your life, if you wish to become unattached, to be concerned how you will live, you see. This is the most difficult thing for humans to understand. Yet there are many examples of those beings that have ventured out and found their way without knowing what the way was, you see. If a human wishes to become unattached, they also have to be unattached to the way things will be. They must move with the flow of their Higher Self. Namaste.
OWS: Remember that when Yeshua was beginning his mission and he said to those who were going to be his followers, “drop everything and follow me.” And some did and some did not, you see? That is how it works. They went in blind faith. They became unattached, you see? Thank about that.
Are there any further questions here before we release channel? Any further questions?
Guest: Greetings. I wanted to ask a question about the concept that perhaps some of us have already ascended individually. But for this particular information, the requirements were that whether were individually ascended or not, that we have experienced forgetfulness, we had to go through the veil, we had to experience losing our abilities all over again as if we were not ascended for the sake of assisting in the group ascension. And I also wanted to inquire about the concept of acceptance, accepting that we are already ascended, accepting that we volunteered for this incarnation, and that we agreed to experience a life as if we were not ascended all over again because those were the requirements, and accepting that all is well, that we are at service, and that we are already there, and there is nothing to do but just accept. Thank you.
OWS: We are not hearing a direct question here from you.
Shoshanna: We can share.
OWS: Yes, please.
Shoshanna: We apologize that we stepped in.
OWS: No apology necessary.
Shoshanna: Dear Brother, may we share?
Shoshanna: Please. Thank you.
Shoshanna: Dear Brother, we feel your heart. We feel your emotion, and we must share this, you see. We must ask a question here. Can you teach math if you do not know math?
Guest: Certainly not.
Shoshanna: So Dear One, what is occurring here on this planet is that you, as an ascended being, descended. Descended to assist. Yes. You are an ascended being at another level, but here you volunteered to help all of these beings that have no idea what the heck is going on here. So for you to do that, you must learn math! You must learn how they feel. You must learn to become them. You must learn to commiserate. You must learn to uplift them, you see. We have already been there. All of you have been there. But to assist an entire species to get there, you must become them. Does this make sense, Dear Brother?
Guest: Yes it does. Thank you so much. Very nice.
Shoshanna: Namaste. Namaste.
OWS: Very good, very good. We are ready to move on here and release channel. Shoshanna, do you have any parting message here?
Shoshanna: Yes, we do. Dear Brothers and Sisters, each moment that you take a breath, you must acknowledge who you are. You must acknowledge that this is the right path, and that all you are doing is for those that you serve, and that is why you are here. Namaste.
OWS: And we simply will say keep on keeping on being those systems busters that you came here to be. Do not give up. Do not give in. Do not allow for the system to take you back, in terms of the programming. Release the programming. Move on beyond it. And, as you do so, you will find yourself becoming more and more unattached to those various things that have been holding you to this third-dimensional illusion. Let go. Move on. Very good. We are ready to release channel.
Shanti. Peace be with you. Be the one.
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