Tunia: Defining the Political Left and Right

Channel: A.S.

My dearest brothers and sisters,

This is Tunia speaking. I love you so very much.

I wouldn’t suggest that the average person spends a huge amount of time studying politics. However, I do think that it’s useful to know the basics, in order to understand the world that you live in.

Hence, over the next weeks we will discuss a few political topics.

In the good old days, the channeler would simply have posted a huge 22-page article that contained all our pressing thoughts about politics. However, recently we are trying to post shorter, more concise messages. Hence this has become a series instead of one huge post. Thank you for your feedback.

Let’s start our series by defining left-wing and right-wing politics. These terms have become muddled over the years.

I would suggest the following definition: left-wing ideology seeks a relatively large amount of government or communal control over the economy, for some perceived greater good. Often, but not necessarily, this greater good is relative social and financial equality.

Far-left ideology is where the government or community has total control over the economy, such as with communism in the Soviet Union. Modern-day China isn’t far left, because private enterprise is allowed in China.

Personally I live in a non-coercive form of communism where there barely is any government, and the economy genuinely is controlled communally. However, due to Earth human’s relatively lower level of consciousness, communism on Earth has been coercive and government-controlled wherever it’s implemented on any kind of large scale.

Conversely, right-wing ideology seeks a relatively small amount of government or communal control over the economy. This usually means relatively few laws, relatively little taxation, a relatively small government, and a willingness to accept that some people will become much wealthier than others.

Far-right ideology wants there to be practically zero government or communal control over the economy. This means that individuals should be allowed to dump poisonous chemicals into the river, openly and without hiding it. If a company becomes a monopoly and abuses their position, that’s fine. The far right may want the state to enforce property rights and stop people from just murdering each other, but other than that they want a tiny or non-existent state.

That’s it. In my slightly nonstandard definition, left-wing politics is large amounts of communal or government control over the economy. Right-wing politics is small amounts of communal or government control over the economy.

Now yes, there are also all kinds of things commonly associated with the left (such as identity politics) and with the right (such as nationalism).

However, if you apply left-wing and right-wing labels based on these common associations, you end up with the left seeing itself as close to the center and seeing much of the right as far-right. And you end up with the right seeing itself as close to the center and seeing much of the left as far-left.

This isn’t very productive. It leads to unjustified hysteria: the left sees Trump as a nationalist, but then has the unjustified association that nationalism = far right. And so the left sees Trump as a far-right fascist who is going to end democracy forever if he is elected.

Or you have the right thinking that identity politics = far-left and identity politics = communism. And while there are some correlations between these things, right now you have people on the right thinking that lots of American politicians are secretly communists, even though they’re really not. The mainstream modern left isn’t trying to abolish private property.

I think that with my definitions, most people will agree that the majority of the left isn’t far-left, and the majority of the right isn’t far-right. As, indeed, they are not.

Now yes, some people on the left have gone off the rails with extreme identity politics, which discriminates against men and white people. However just because some people on the left engage in that, doesn’t mean that the definition of the left is engaging in extreme identity politics. After all, there are far-left communists out there who don’t engage in modern-left extreme identity politics, so it isn’t an inherent part of left-wing ideology.

Frankly, I think extreme identity politics doesn’t deserve to be dignified by being defined as core to left-wing ideology. Because left-wing ideology is genuine and valid and valuable in my opinion, and extreme identity politics is not. I think extreme identity politics is just discrimination, and I don’t think that discrimination is inherently part of the left.

Next up, I will argue why I don’t think that a lot of other left-wing and right-wing definitions work very well:

SECTION: Left-wing and right-wing definitions that I think are less helpful

The classical definition of communism is that individuals aren’t allowed to own means of production. Some people would say that’s the definition of left-wing, and the position that individuals should be allowed to own means of production is right-wing. I don’t think this is helpful, because by that definition, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are right-wing. So is modern-day China. But obviously, most people wouldn’t classify them as right-wing.

Globalism isn’t always left-wing. The corporate establishment right in the United States is somewhat globalist, being not very concerned with offshored jobs and illegal immigration and loss of sovereignty that comes from signing big international treaties. This was actually one of the big disagreements between Trump and the corporate establishment right: nationalism versus globalism. So the political right can lean towards globalism.

Now yes, the current left is globalist. But I think that’s just something that the current left happens to be doing, and it’s not an inextricable part of left-wing ideology. So is the current left globalist, yes. Is globalism an inherent part of the definition of being left-wing, in my opinion not, it’s just something that the left happens to be right now.

Is nationalism part of the definition of being right-wing? Also in my opinion not. After all, nationalism isn’t always right-wing. For example, Bill Clinton built border walls and he sounds nationalistic in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrDrBs13oA . After all, back then the left was more concerned with providing material well-being to their in-group, hence they opposed illegal immigration. And now the left has included illegal immigrants into their in-group, and the left is also more concerned with providing emotional well-being to their in-group through so-called social justice initiatives.

Also, left-winger Stalin was an extreme nationalist, to the point where he conquered other countries and committed genocide against Ukranians during the Holodomor. He was also noted for his “socialism in one country” policy.

Nowadays many people would say that any genocidal imperialist who targets specific racial groups is far-right, but nope, communist Stalin was an authoritarian imperialist who committed genocide against specifically Ukranians. So the left can do that too.

Some left-wingers try to avoid Stalin’s awful record by saying that the Soviet Union wasn’t communist, it was state capitalist. I think “state capitalist” is a term that contradicts itself, because capitalism is precisely not the state running the entire economy by itself. Furthermore, it’s weird to me to call the communist Soviet Union capitalist, even if you put “state” in front of the word “capitalist.”

I think this is just a rhetorical trick from the left to not take responsibility for what the clearly left-wing Soviet Union did. It’s like how some right-wingers say that any bad thing that happens under capitalism isn’t actually capitalism’s fault, it’s the fault of crony capitalism.

The reality is that communism at your current level of consciousness does lead to certain negative outcomes, as Stalin showed. You can’t just pretend those negative consequences aren’t part of communism, because communism leads to those negative outcomes.

The reality is also that capitalism at your current level of consciousness does lead to certain negative outcomes, as the US shows. You can’t just pretend those negative consequences aren’t part of capitalism, because capitalism leads to those negative outcomes. Later on in this political series I’ll point out which part of capitalism is producing a lot of these so-called crony capitalist kinds of outcomes.

If you want the left to own the downsides of the communist Soviet Union, you have to own the downsides of the capitalist United States. And if you want the right to own the downsides of the capitalist United States, you have to own the downsides of the communist Soviet Union.

I also don’t think you can define the right as being the financially responsible side. During 2017 – 2019, Trump was president and the right controlled the house and the senate, and that was before covid times. And during this period, the national debt went up. So I don’t think that the right can really claim to be financially responsible.

It’s not even clear that the left increases government debt more quickly, because the right tends to slash taxes and the left tends to raise them.

Now yes, the right IS associated with lower taxes and a smaller government, as we already included in our definition. But if you just look at the numbers, then I don’t think that it’s so obvious that the right wing is better at reducing government debt than the left is. Sure, someone could make an argument along those lines, but it’s not inherently clear and so I wouldn’t define the right as being better at reducing government debt.

Right now there’s this kind of awful spiral in America, where the left increases government expenditures while the right slashes taxes, and together that leads to more and more government debt. And of course, both sides say that their part of this is fine, it’s the actions of the other side that are the problem.

Next up, I don’t think that you can say that by definition left-wing politics is better for the poor or underprivileged. After all, the right would argue that right-wing politics are actually better for the poor and underprivileged. And this argument cannot be immediately dismissed: look at the economy under Trump vs the economy under Biden for example. Or if you want to look at a nation-wide level, an argument can be made that the poor fared better in capitalist countries than in left-wing countries in the medium term, due to higher overall economic growth. A rising tide lifts all boats.

Some people on the right have also pointed out that if one person goes to work at 18 while another goes to study at 18, then in the long term the student will earn significantly more over their lifetime, if they make sensible choices. However, so the right-wing argument goes, what the left wants to do is take taxpayer money from the working person who is already on a path to earning relatively less, and use that taxpayer money to forgive student loans. So, the argument goes, in this case the left is hurting working-class people for the benefit of people who are already on a path to earning significantly more in their lifetime. Which is one example of the left wing being against the working class.

While the left likes to say that they’re better for the poor and underprivileged, there is a whole lot of “help the ingroup” going on. People who study are the in-group because they’re typically more left-wing, while people who go to work at 18 are the outgroup because they’re typically more right-wing. So, let’s transfer money from right-wing to left-wing people, even though in this case the right-wing people will earn less over their lifetime. And let’s call the working class racists and deplorables if they try to make anti-immigration arguments that they feel are necessary for their economic well-being.

You can argue whether these right-wing arguments are justified, but at the very least I think they’re reasonable enough that you cannot just define the left wing as being better for the poor or underprivileged. Of course, people can still make arguments about these topics either way, I’m just trying to find definitions right now, and I think “the left is better for the poor” isn’t part of a definition of the left.

I wouldn’t say that either side can claim to be inherently better for human rights. The right passed the Patriot act for example, and the left would say that their repeal of Roe v Wade is a violation of women’s rights. Conversely, the right would argue that the left promotes hiring policies that discriminate against men and white people, and that the left censors, and that the left seriously violated the rights of people who refused the covid jab. Hence, I don’t think you can define either side as being better for human rights.

As for freedom, it’s slightly complicated. If you mean freedom as in “there are relatively few cases where the government stops you from taking certain actions”, then that’s right-wing.

If you mean freedom as in “having access to a welfare state and universal healthcare and education, so that you are free to pursue your highest life without fear of financial ruin” then that’s left-wing.

Of course the right would argue that the left’s idea of freedom isn’t free at all. But then the left might retort that if the left doesn’t keep companies in check, then average working class people will one day wake up with theoretical freedom, while being reduced to a life of wage slavery in practice.

Also, the left tends to accuse the right of being authoritarian, and the right tends to accuse the left of being authoritarian.

Hence, I didn’t include “being pro-freedom” as in my definition of either the left or the right, because both sides will claim to be pro-freedom in their own way.

Next up, if you go to wikipedia, it says: “Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,”

I think this is a strange definition. If the right cared about social orders and hierarchies, and saw these as inevitable, then wouldn’t the right just sit back, because their preferred outcome is inevitable anyway?

It is true that the right isn’t opposed to some people becoming much wealthier and more successful and more influential than others. However, I’d say that most right-wingers aren’t right-wing because they love hierarchy. That’s more of an outcome that they’re okay with than their primary motivator.

I don’t think right-wingers wake up every day thinking that they love hierarchy so much, or that they must defend hierarchies, or that all is well in the world because no matter what the left does, hierarchies are inevitable anyway.

Instead, right wingers are typically more concerned about the government not messing with them or the economy too much, thinking that it’s free market capitalism that makes a country prosperous. Right wingers often are concerned with the government not causing or getting into problems such as with the national debt. And right wingers have a number of values they hold dear, such as freedom and the rule of law.

But I guess that position sounds too sympathetic, while it sounds vaguely sinister to say that the right likes certain social order or hierarchies. This illustrates an important point that the left is well aware of: if you can manipulate language and definitions, then you can put your side on favorable terrain.

So: I have provided definitions of the left-wing and the right-wing. I have discussed why I think that a number of alternative definitions don’t work well.

SECTION: Some questions for reflection.

Finally, I would like to ask you a few questions. These can help you reflect.

If you want, you can post your answers or alternatively your current thoughts in the comment section.

Question one: on a zoomed-out, big picture level: what things should and shouldn’t the government concern itself with?

Question two: is the solution to the current economic problems more government involvement in the economy, or less government involvement in the economy? What are the most important things that the government should start doing or should stop doing?

Question three: is it a problem that rich individuals get richer and richer over time? Should the government do something to stop rich individuals from snowballing their wealth?

Question four: is it a problem that rich families get richer and richer over time? Should the government do something to stop rich families from snowballing their wealth?

With that, I wish you a very good week. I love you so very much.

Your star sister,
Tunia

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15 Replies to “Tunia: Defining the Political Left and Right”

  1. Danny

    Thank Tunia and A.S. send this message.

    About Q3 and Q4. I have some ideas.
    The government should maintains a fair economy and good education. It needs to teach the surface population that they are powerful. For example, someone is a very rich people but not giving back to society. The government informed the public about this through mass media. Then, everyone is angry and condemns him. Nobody wants to purphase his services or products anymore. It will have an implicit upper limit to prevent the rich from snowballing. The government did not interfere excessively.

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  2. LCX

    I don’t want to make things too complicated. I will provide relatively simple answers for everyone’s reference, although this may not be an idea that I completely agree with.

    Answer one: In theory, macro government or federal government should focus on ensuring the survival of the entire society as an organic whole and maintaining basic humanitarianism. On the premise that these are reasonably satisfied, the government should not focus on exerting influence and restrictions on individuals and communities or even municipal government, how to create a happier life and avoid suffering should be their own definition and handling. As the “underlying system”, managing these will make macro government lose its neutrality, become the targets of most criticisms, bear various pressures, and become unstable.

    Answer two: In order to solve the current economic problems, the government should intervene more in the economy to avoid the entire society being assassinated by negative aliens or becoming a dystopia ruled by negative aliens due to the uncontrolled super large companies.
    In terms of economy, the government should adjust the money supply to bring prices towards a stable level, and not make interest rates higher than the economic growth rate. And implement a certain basic income system for the whole population, to inhibit social competitions and commercial monopolies that lack bottom lines, this can also give people more time to think and deal with social problems.
    If not limited to the economic aspect, the government should disclose the ruling role of aliens or their mixed race descendants from history to the present, as well as the history of modern government interaction with extraterrestrial civilizations, in order to end the dismemberment and living dead’s sleepwalking of social ideology.

    Answer three: Rich individuals get richer and richer over time often causes problems. When selfish super rich have the ability to defeat the government’s army or bribe too many people, they will do whatever they want to the society, which brings a survival crisis to the society. And super rich are usually very selfish, otherwise they wouldn’t have become super rich, just like super obese are usually very greedy.
    The government should stipulate that the proportion of a person’s property(or a piece of property under personal control, like the property of some companies) to the social or national GDP, should not exceed the reciprocal of the sum of the members of parliament and state assemblies even including city councils(that means thousands to hundreds of thousands). This will form an ecological balance to avoid serious crisis, since power should not be too centralized, so should property.

    Answer four: As mentioned in Answer three, restricting personal property means family property will also be restricted.

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  3. Collin

    Hi Tunia. I respect your definitions of left-wing and right-wing politics. I agree that generally speaking, the former advocates for larger government and the latter advocates for smaller government. As far as Earth society goes, I think the focus should be more about the purpose of government intervention itself. When the government does step in, is it for a justified purpose or not? In my opinion, if it is for a justified purpose (e.g. solving wealth inequality) then it should happen, and if the purpose is not for a justified reason (e.g. stripping people of their liberties) then it should not happen.

    Unfortunately, society on Earth does not respect rational, middle-of-the-road outcomes or discussions (see my rants about “Either/Or Land” in previous posts). This really presents an awful scenario where each side holds the other hostage and is unwilling to budge even an inch. In this paradigm, everyone suffers.

    In this nightmarish scenario, a rational and level-headed discussion about the purpose of government intervention cannot take place because the minds of people on both sides are warped to only be able to envision extreme outcomes. So in essence, people can only see really good outcomes or really bad outcomes.

    Further adding to this nightmare is the fact that people just decide unilaterally whether they see an outcome as really good or really bad. Once this decision is made (and usually it is made quickly and without proper rational thinking), then every act that supports that particular outcome is seen as justified. In other words, the “end justifies the means.” Even if people have positive intentions, things can get out of whack in a hurry.

    In summary, I agree with your basic definitions and your analysis of both sides. I think you have summed it up very well. In my opinion, we need to take the discussion one step further and address the human psychological factor. I think the deeper question is, “Why do people make up their minds using strict ‘either/or’ type thinking?”

    I think this should be explored further. I am open to different perspectives and discussions pertaining to this phenomenon.

    Thank you for caring.

    Peace.

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  4. AngelsSingFire

    Less politics. More about space life, when ya’ll are steppin in, and detailing of the grey hats failure

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  5. Nameless

    Please answer the questions I wrote in the previous article. Personally, I think that an advanced, good, non-criminal, and fair system like your good system, as you described, should come to our planet. It is not the current concept of left, right, and government.

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  6. the_compliment_department

    Very well said!
    But see, the powers that be… ‘are’ powers precisely because everyone else is busy avoiding politics, pointing out how pointless it is and seeking their ‘inner guidance’ instead… “Don’t let them win” is actually the motto that keeps ‘politics’ as you see it alive.

    Practical people often perceive spirituality as a distraction too – and they are not wrong, since we can’t really understand any spiritual ideals unless we experience them in the material form.

    And guess what: uniting different people or aspects of an individual self is a feat of politics, so you’ve been doing it all along!

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    1. the_compliment_department

      [apologies, I was replying to the first comment but – as I’ve seen happen before – the general ‘comment’ box is directly below it and sometimes you forget to hit the ‘Reply’ link first.]

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    2. Susan

      Hi Complaint Dept.!

      I appreciate the conversation.

      When I said don’t let them win, I meant don’t let them succeed in the attempt to make us hate and fear each other. Or in other words, love and accept people, even if you don’t agree with them. Perhaps especially if you don’t agree with them. So maybe that’s the politics of love.

      About avoiding politics: I’m going to vote, so not avoiding it. Not that I think our votes mean much, but hey, democracy is a participatory sport, right? I’m just trying to operate on the principle of reality follows attention, or what you focus your energy on is what you create. And instead of get myself all in a lather about Demicons and Republicrats, I meditate, volunteer at the animal rescue, appreciate the beauty and nurturing of mother nature on a hike, sing to my cat, talk to trees, feed birds, donate to the homeless shelter, help a neighbor regardless of their political views. Maybe that’s the politics of being present to what’s in my lane.

      I get the point you are making. Yes, ultimately, there’s politics in everything. You are right. And so am I when I say the politics of left wing vs right wing are a distraction, a waste of energy that could be spent on something that actually expands the heart rather than contracts it. Maybe that’s the politics of joy.

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      1. the_compliment_department

        Oh I know what you meant, I was just being practical about ‘not letting them win’. ❤️ To be against antagonism is inherently hypocritical.

        I feel the controversy of “who exactly are they” and how they operate is more appealing to me than the actual left and right debate, but I’ve learned that if you scratch the surface of any distraction just a little bit, it sometimes leads to further expansion.

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        1. Susan

          I agree on both counts. I guess the trick is discernment about what you want to expand. Be well CD. Love to ya brother ❤️

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  7. TIAGO VELOSO

    I am 76 years old and used to consider myself a radical leftist in my youth (the sixties) in my country, Brasil.
    Now I just threw away any political or ideological labels, they don’t matter anymore.
    Now, for the planet, there are two kinds of people:
    1. Those who are searching TRUTH
    2. Those who are not worried about it and are going away from TRUTH.
    Simple as that.

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  8. Aztec

    First of all, I believe that politics in its current form looks as it does thanks to the Workers of the Light, why ?. If the planet was left to its own devices and there were no souls here who want to lift this pit of misery and despair, we would have long since lived in one big “official” concentration camp without any rights or hope for a better fate. At the outset I wanted to say this.

    1. The government in its current form should cease to exist ( the empty NPC bodies with no soul connection and the regressive ET races that manipulate must disappear from the planet. Otherwise nothing will ever change).

    In my opinion, we should dissolve most of the Countries (the greater the division, the greater the scope for manipulation and deception) Divide the whole world into 10-12 Spheres of care that will govern these regions) as leaders, choose the wisest, selfless people who exude love and have the knowledge of how to lead, but do not want to do so. (The one who wants to rule others becomes a tyrant).

    2. The second problem is the financial system, as long as there is money there will always be bigger and smaller problems (in themselves they are not bad, but they tempt less developed souls, so as long as all people on earth are not at a similar stage of development, it will always be a problem).

    Withdrawal of money will not be easy, but it should be pursued in my opinion.

    3-5. Answering the others – this should already follow from the previous ones. Government in its current form is a problem and a sytem with this structure is prone to corruption. How to solve the enrichment of the rich and impoverishment of the poor ?
    It’s not that easy I’m not going to write a book here but we should solve it as a society and not count on the Government to do it for us.

    In my opinion, we need to move as soon as possible to a system with as few divisions as possible and the current Form of Government that is ( manage them ) must be dissolved at all costs.

    Have a great day and weekend everyone 🙂

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  9. Susan

    Politics is never going to solve any problems. It’s just another distraction designed to divide us and prevent mass ascention to unity consciousness (5D) and keep us stuck in seperation consciousness (3D). It does not matter who is president. No one can fix anything for you. That’s an inside job. Until we learn to go within and heal ourselves, alchemize our fear into love, no true freedom or sovereign living will be known. Anyone focused on or hyped up about the political left or the polical right is too stuck in matrix programing and beliefs to realize any spiritual growth and higher consciousness. Once we step into higher vibration and frequency everything else transforms and gets fixed for the highest good of all. The powers that be want us to hate and fear each other. Don’t let them win.

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    1. Monica Behling Anghel

      I agree! Very well said! I didn’t love this post. I don’t care about the intricacies of Left vs Right. Who cares? It’s a two tiered justice system based on greed and control and designed to keep us divided. I’m surprised a spiritual post would go on and on about the Left vs Right. I agree with everything you said and you put it so eloquently!

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