R’Kok: Yes, Ashtar is indecisive

Channel: A.S.

My dearest Earth friends,

This is R’Kok speaking. I greet you in peace and love.

There’s been some pushback to the Netanyahu paragraph in Einostraee’s last message. I can see the points that people are making. Fair points.

Ultimately that was just an, arguably bad, way to illustrate that it’s quite a step for Pleiadians to turn to me, the war criminal, for guidance.

The point wasn’t to say that Ashtar is equivalent to Netanyahu, of course he isn’t.

But yeah, maybe that was just a bad remark that didn’t take the situation and history and behind-the-scenes things into account.

Us galactics are imperfect individuals, and at times we may be wrong. Kudo’s for thinking for yourself and speaking up.

In the comment section, someone also suggested we learn from you Earth humans. Yes, we should do that more. But now that we’re being blunt about the flaws of the Pleiadians: it’s sometimes difficult for Pleiadians to fully 100% take Earth humans seriously because you’re so young.

Many Pleiadians are at least hundreds of years old and often they’re over a thousand. Okay, so even a 50 year old human… is maybe one twentieth the age of a Pleiadian.

Would you seek advice from a two year old? Probably not. But just as you’re something like 20 times as old as a two year old…. Pleiadians are often something like 20 times as old as you are.

Now obviously Pleiadians don’t literally think of you as 2 year olds, but look, would you go out of your way to seek advice from people significantly younger than yourself? Suppose you’re 40 year old, do you go out of your way to ask 18 year olds what you should do? Probably not, right? But well, the age gap between you and 18 year olds is far smaller than between you and the average Pleiadian.

You might argue “but us Earth humans learn far more in 40 years than Pleiadians learn in 40 years” and that’s true, but do you go out of your way to ask an 18 year old for advice whose teenage years were turbulent and filled with challenges and lessons?

You can be annoyed at Pleiadians for this, but most likely you yourself also have that very same age bias that Pleiadians do.

As above, so below — if you get annoyed at someone, make sure you’re not condemning them for a flaw that you also have.

This isn’t to say that Pleiadians don’t listen to or learn from Earth humans at all, they do, but there is some age bias there. Good point though, I’ll keep pointing out that Pleiadians should listen to and learn from Earth humans more (and from other very very young people).

At least I’m old and cranky, so Pleiadians have an easier time taking me seriously.

The last messages have talked about the flaws of Pleiadians, which exist, but Pleiadians genuinely also have a whole lot of wonderful qualities. I invite you to think in a nuanced way: Pleiadians aren’t perfect, but neither are they horrible or completely detached. Meeting Pleiadians and interacting with them is still going to be a ten out of ten experience (or close to that) for most people, when that happens.

If Pleiadians hadn’t helped you, often in ways that caused Pleiadians casualties, your situation would be far worse right now. They do care, and they are helping you behind the scenes.

Next up, I want to make sure that we don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, and hence I do want to defend Einostraee’s core claim that while Ashtar’s council is smart and it has its qualities, they’re also indecisive.

I get that this goes against the common view.

And I get that this may be emotionally uncomfortable, because sure, emotionally it feels better to think that some kind of perfect being is in charge and is leading everything towards a perfect outcome.

This is also why so many people still think that the person in the white house is the real Trump, and that he’s incredibly smart and well-informed and righteous and fully in control, and that everything he does is the perfect 5D chess move to liberate Earth. Even though believing that in late 2025 is frankly pretty ridiculous. Now yes some things that person does are in fact positive, but he’s no flawless white hat.

Similarly, I think some common sense reasoning based on first principles shows that Einostraee is right that Ashtar’s council has its positive traits, but they’re also indecisive.

Suppose that Ashtar’s council is decisive, and that in let’s say 2012 they declare that let’s say 2013 is the moment of first contact. Okay, then it’s logical that around 2012 you see “soon” messages being put out, because first contact is one year away. But obviously, in this case first contact would have happened back in 2013, and it didn’t. Sure, maybe there’s a delay or unexpected obstacle once or twice, but you wouldn’t see “soon” messages being put out monthly by lots of different people for over a decade.

Alternatively, suppose that Ashtar’s council is decisive, and that in let’s say 2012 they declare that let’s say 2030 is the moment of first contact. Well in this case, you wouldn’t see lots of Earth people over the last decade channeling lots of galactics saying “soon.” After all, those galactics would know that Ashtar said it’s 2030, so they wouldn’t say “soon” in for example 2015. But in fact, lots of messages in 2015 and other previous years have said “soon.”

Alternatively, suppose that Ashtar’s council is decisive, and that in let’s say 2012 they declare that first contact or Earth liberation will happen when certain obstacles are removed or when certain milestones are reached, for example when human consciousness reaches a certain level. Okay, well in this case, galactics would realize that in 2012 and in 2013 and in 2014, first contact or Earth liberation in fact is not “soon.” So you wouldn’t have 2012 and 2013 and 2014 etc messages saying “soon.” But you did have those messages.

Basically, if Ashtar’s council is decisive, you can’t have a situation where lots of different Earth humans channel lots of different galactics who all say “soon” over a decade or longer. But in fact, that’s exactly what has happened.

The explanation for that is that Ashtar’s council is indeed indecisive. If we accept that, things make logical sense. Galactics keep hearing from Ashtar’s council “soon”, so they keep putting out messages saying “soon”, but then Ashtar’s council indecisively delays things, and so nothing happens. Which is why there have been “soon” messages for over a decade.

The only other explanation is that every single channeler who’s ever made a “soon” statement is in fact a fake channeler. This includes not just people who have made formal predictions with a date given, but also just people who have put out messages in which a galactic says a throwaway line that Earth liberation or first contact isn’t far off.

So even if a channeler says “I don’t do predictions / dates”, well if they put out a message three years ago which has language indicating that first contact or galactic intervention isn’t far off… that’s now a fake channeler. If you want to go with this alternative explanation.

This alternative position is logically consistent, but note that you would have to label a whole lot of people as fake channelers. This channeler would be a fake channeler. And also, that other channeler that you like quite a bit has probably indicated “soon” or “it’s not too far off now” in some old message, so they are now a fake channeler too.

Look, the bottom line is, if a group keeps saying “soon we’ll take action” for over a decade but then they never take action… their leadership is probably indecisive. Right? Or they’re complete idiots, but we have spaceships so we’re probably not complete idiots.

Again, Einostraee is imperfect. She’s not necessarily right about everything. You don’t need to agree with everything in her messages.

In fact, it’s healthy to treat channeled messages you read as one person’s perspective, rather than as the sole objective truth.

However, I think it’s hard to dispute Einostraee’s central “Ashtar’s council is indecisive” claim, if you think about it logically.

Finally, we’ve been zooming in on the flaws of Ashtar. Keep in mind that he has far more virtues and skills than he has flaws. He’s not perfect, no flesh and blood being is. If he was perfect, he wouldn’t be a physical being. Still, honestly, he is a great leader.

He does a whole lot of things well. You just don’t hear about them.

If you think you’d do better in Ashtar’s chair than he does: no you wouldn’t. You don’t even see one tenth of the complexity of the Earth operation. Einostraee doesn’t even see a quarter of the complexity.

You almost certainly have more flaws than Ashtar does. And if we’d purely zoom in on your flaws, you wouldn’t look good either.

Yes Ashtar can use more decisiveness, but he’s literally studying under me right now to address that flaw of his. Isn’t it a great quality of a leader to publicly acknowledge his flaws and work to address them?

With all that said, I do acknowledge that many Earth people need urgent help, and that him working on himself isn’t directly helping you. I’ll do my best to as soon as possible get Ashtar’s council to actually start making decisions and sticking with them.

And if you can see that Ashtar is neither perfect, nor evil, nor an idiot, but instead that he’s a well-meaning and hard-working man with many qualities and also some flaws… then you’re far ahead of most Earth humans.

Because when we land, we really are not looking to get worshipped (or demonized, if we don’t immediately fix every single Earth problem on day 1).

Instead, let’s embrace each other in our humanness.

With love,
R’Kok

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36 Replies to “R’Kok: Yes, Ashtar is indecisive”

  1. Nora

    What I have experienced with Ashtar was, that I saw Pleiadians of Ashtar placing Earth ground in cubes above my head, to assist me in grounding. I felt those Earth Cubes descending within me. This happened a few years ago. And a time later, I saw an Ashtarian Being in my bedroom checking upon me. I remember that I turned away, for exactly the earth cubes had grounded me so much, that I felt real emotions coming up that needed to be released. thanx to them, I did not find my old grounding, but the release of what burdened me before in my grounding. So thank you very much Ashtar Command! And indecisive… well, maybe there may be another word for this. May it be….waiting for and in coherence with other planetary Beings? And yes indeed, ‘young ones’ are always eager.

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  2. kev

    As someone who has had difficulty in not assuming star nations are more perfect than us earthers, i think the earth populace just needs the opportunity to get to know the star nations and more importantly the true history of earth and recent events. The truth will set you free, right. Clearly that takes time for people to digest considering the accepted norms today, but on the other hand i have been reading “soon” in channelings since 2011. Circles back to trusting the creator has the divine plan in motion already and we will get there when we’re ready to be there type of thing.
    Love, light, truth
    kev

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  3. Patricia Jouve

    Thank you R’Kok, I agree with you. we do not know what the Pleiadians are doing for us every day and what Ashtar is going through.How can we even start criticizing whan we wouldn’t be able to do a hundredth of what they are doing???Thank you for this reminder!

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  4. Franco

    Buongiorno, ma se è da almeno 20 anni che Ashtar ed il suo team dicono che atterreranno …c’è ancora qualcuno che gli crede? e poi dobbiamo aspettare che arrivi qualcuno dall’esterno a salvarci? da chi e da che cosa? non è meglio stare zitti ed eventualmente comunicare SOLO quando sarà! e se le premesse sono queste, auguri.

    Franco

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  5. ra

    Wow, you’ve been saying “soon” for ten years. Not even the last year.
    Anyway, I think that’s the privilege of being a child under 100.

    Even if she acts recklessly, the galactic people who have lived for hundreds of years will try to understand her, especially when she’s just starting to turn 30.

    She’ll be grateful for this privilege, a space child, and she’ll do her best to serve.
    Thank you for the great post!

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  6. Aga

    My, ludzie z planety Terra żyjemy krótko i dlatego nie możemy się już doczekać Nowej Ziemii 5D oraz spotkania z Galaktykami.💖🌍💫👥💖✨Dla nas, czekanie na przykład następną Dekadę na te Wydarzenia – to bardzo długo…Ale z pewnością nie jest też łatwo Ashtarowi dowodzić i podejmować trudne decyzje.🌍💫✨Ogrom wdzięczności dla Ashtar Command💖👥💖i dla Ciebie R’Kok za wiadomości.💖🤗

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  7. LCX

    Many thanks to A.S. for being willing to “work overtime” and continue to transmit, these messages are really important.

    And many thanks to R’Kok for participating in the decision to liberate Earth and clarifying some things.
    Some of my past understanding was that a considerable portion of short messages were from less-comprehension, negative forces, using unfulfilled prophecies to consume Earth people’s hope and spirit. Because their comprehension is not very high, they may use too much positive information to package negative information.
    Some of my other understanding was that many high-density beings have poor time perception of the low-density world, and they lack understanding and empathy for the vocabulary and mentality of the low-density world. This statement may seem unreasonable, but it’s reasonable for some people.

    Perhaps the galactics could provide relatively delayed progress information from the beginning, which would give them more room for maneuver, perhaps they could tell Earth people this is to avoid disrupting military operations. Unfortunately, it’s already too late to do so. And I understand the desire to spread good news as soon as possible. Anyway, it’s welcome to have heard more accurate information or explanation.

    If I were to rescue my love trapped in the mine, I would rather let her suffer from a relative lack of food for a longer period, than not let her take the first bite of food as soon as possible. After all, many Earth people I love would rather choose relatively more painful and difficult experience with clear goals and hopes, than experience that is chaotic and makes them lost but have less overall suffering. What I mean may be to promote open scientific research on ghost phenomena, possibly using sensitive particle detectors and optical detectors.
    
    Well, I still need to complete P4/6 of rDDEE.

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  8. magdalenam34si

    Czesc!
    Drogi R Kok,nieraz wiek nie ma aż takiego znaczenia!
    Jeżeli 20 latek jest mądrzejszy od 150 latka ,to warto szukać u niego porady.Yazhi Swaruu ma 12 lat ,a przewyższa mądrością niejednego Plejadianina😉

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  9. CHRIST JESUS!

    Ashtar is crappy he has gotta go and be replaced by anyone who LIKES OR LOVES EARTH AND IS DECISIVE! Think Zapp Brannigan! He’s A Hero!

    But thank you for your goodness Ashtar and whatever good you did for the Earth and people here!

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  10. Collin

    Hi R’Kok. Thanks for your input. In my opinion, Ashtar has an incredibly difficult job and I would not want to be in his shoes. From my perspective, Earth humans have essentially four paths to take between now and the liberation:

    1. Work on self-mastery and believe we will one day be free.
    2. Work on self-mastery and don’t believe we will one day be free.
    3. Don’t work on self-mastery and believe we will one day be free.
    4. Don’t work on self-mastery and don’t believe we will one day be free.

    Ever since 2020 when I hit rock bottom in my life I have been choosing path #1. In my experience this path is by far the superior path. If more people choose this path then I believe the liberation will manifest sooner.

    It is best to not overthink things.

    Namaste.

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  11. Brandon

    Ashtar is indecisive because, with his increased personal vibrations compared to Earth humans, the sense of urgency is lost. This is a natural consequence of increased vibrations.

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  12. Jiva

    Indecisive/Decisive
    Safe/Danger
    Left/Right
    Feminine/Masculine
    Etc/Etc

    Pick a side?
    Have one of the sides win?
    Epic failure obviously

    My feminine energy wants to hang back and let things develop. My masculine energy is ready to go ‘guns a blazing’.

    Our two sides need/want to dance. To dance they need to be balanced.

    Currently, we are being dominated by our left side as a reaction to being previously dominated by our right side and not wanting to make the same horrid mistakes again.

    (IMO: If we keep it up we’re going to find out what horrid mistakes our left side can make)

    Our mistake was and is a lack of balance. Failure to dance.
    To dance within ourselves.

    To dance with each other, we need first to dance within ourselves.

    Turn on the music. Let’s get this party started.

    When we dance the ceiling disappears, the sky disappears and it’s all good.

    Stay balanced
    Dancing happens
    That’s all

    PS: Thank you A.S. You have the most awesome crew of channelees.

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  13. Miguel

    Todas las perspectivas aportan visiones diferentes de la situación actual de la humanidad.
    Me pregunto por qué aún no se manifiesta la alternativa para quienes desean otra forma de existencia aquí en el planeta Tierra.

    Sería bueno respetar la voluntad de Gaia, y los deseos que tienen para si mismos todos y cada uno de los seres humanos, aún con las limitaciones de conciencia que poseemos sería la mejor opción para la situación actual, desde mi limitado punto de vista. “Ser y dejar Ser”

    Que se manifieste “otra opción” para quienes ya tuvieron suficiente de este juego.

    Abrazo fraterno; Miguel

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  14. Gwydyon

    We can tell Ashtar is indecisive by him still dwelling in the physical realm despite having advanced much more spiritually than most before they chose non-physicality. So don’t do your job TOO well, R’Kok, or we might lose one of our strongest assets before the final operation. 😉

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  15. Francis Bacon

    In my view, the relevant question is HOW the spiritual liberation of humanity from the many evil entities that are still controlling humanity can be sped up. There is a conflict between saying you respect all individual’s free will, and wanting to liberate the Earth, as the free will of these negative beings is to keep controlling humanity for ever, or as long as possible. And, having tried the depths of darkness myself, the solution is easy to me. You just need to crush these negative entities, and to hell with their free will and rights. They never showed any empathy for others. Also, you can’t make an omelet without crushing eggs. R’Kok’s energy indicates that he understands this well enough, but if A.S’ impression of Ashtar’s council is really correct, it feels like they may bee too far removed from darkness and suffering to really understand what it does to people. I would say that empathy is a law unto itself. If you see people suffer, it causes you to act if you can. And if you do not act, though you can, you will bear a karmic burden. Where I live, the criminal code (even on this planet which was controlled by darkness for so long) states that if you do not assist people who are in grave danger, when you could do it without serious risk to yourself, then you can be punished for it. Transfer that to the “galactic situation”, and I find it difficult to accept that the various beings of light are moving so slowly with project liberation of Earth. However, I am aware that I do not know what each individual has decided to experience here before they incarnated, or what they have agreed to on a soul level. But so many things could be better, quickly, if more drastic action were taken against – for instance – the people who control the mass media and use them to hypnotize and enslave Earth’s population. They clearly believe they can do whatever they want without suffering negative consequences.

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    1. Diamond Lil

      I’ve never been more proud of the The Next Generation crew, than this🥹…

      …or the writers, giving the audience a big win 🥳

      while setting up a Borg sphere, to keep the Enterprise more than busy 😆🥶

      Heh💎♥️

      Thanks, John!

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      1. John

        I actually remember that the audience in the movie theater literally sprung from their seats to cheer the Enterprise saving Worf, but us nerds were not as excited about saving Earth. 😆

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  16. Jiva

    Indecisive/Decisive
    Safe/Danger
    Left/Right
    Feminine/Masculine
    Etc/Etc

    Pick a side?
    Have one of the sides win?
    Epic failure obviously

    My feminine energy wants to hang back and let things develop. My masculine energy is ready to go ‘guns a blazing’.

    Our two sides need to dance. We are now being dominated by our left side as a reaction to being previously dominated by our right side and not wanting to make the same horrid mistakes again

    Our mistake was and is a lack of balance. Failure to dance. To dance within ourselves.

    To dance with each other we need first to dance with ourselves.

    Turn on the music
    Let’s get the party started.

    When we dance the ceiling disappears. The sky disappears. And it’s all good.

    Stay balanced
    Dancing happens
    That’s all

    Ps: Thank you A. S.
    You have the most
    Awesome crew of
    Channelees.

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  17. CosmicCustodian

    The age thing is kind of a misnomer. I’m in my 40’s here on Gaia, but have incarnated almost 9,000 times on various planets. In past lives I have been a king, a conquerer, a warlord etc… I might be more Light and airy-fairy this time, but deep in my being still remember how to stomp some ass when necessary. Ashtar and other high stationed Light Beings are old souls too. I’m sure they remember how to fight when necessary. Physical action will have some casualties. You gotta break a few eggs to make a cake. If they’re waiting for a perfect, clean scenario it’s not gonna happen. Pretty sure Source will bend the rules and give back physical bodies lost so they can still be part of the Ascension. Bottom line; Light Forces, quit fiddle-dinking around and commence final Liberation now!!!

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  18. 9988

    Again with all due respect Mr R’Kok, the human experiment goes far above the pleidians or the reptilians it is not up to the pleidians to decide when humans are ready, the pleidians and reptilian are just pawns in a cosmic game that transcends their level of awareness, thereby their indecisions and insecurities. When the time comes, the decision will come directly from the creator and the ALL THAT IS -and it will be perfect timing. Now, I like the fact that you are trying to defend Ashtar- it shows loyalty. Now you say, “it’s sometimes difficult for Pleidians to fully 100% take earth humans seriously because you are so young.” Now this is a flaw, tremendous insights and wisdom can come from the young. Wisdom is the result of actively reflecting on and learning from experiences, rather than just having lived a long time. Therefore not all old people are wise and some younger people can be very wise. Please expand your thinking.

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    1. Klaudia

      Thank you “9988”🤗 for mentioning “… the human experiment goes far above the pleidians or the reptilians it is not up to the pleidians to decide when humans are ready, the pleidians and reptilian are just pawns in a cosmic game that transcends their level of awareness, thereby their indecisions and insecurities. When the time comes, the decision will come directly from the creator and the ALL THAT IS -and it will be perfect timing.”❤️🙏

      [I’ve always been TOO UTTERLY SPEECHLESS from NOT UNDERSTANDING “how they obviously don’t understand” what even WE “AS LIL HUMANS” CAN comprehend??!🥵]

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          1. Diamond Lil

            🤯😲😳

            Say WHAAAT???

            Everybody knows stuff except ME!😭
            (♥️💎)

          2. Diamond Lil

            🤫

            Be sure not to say it out loud, or to anyone else!

            🤤not even me…….🤭😋😉

            🥰💎♥️

          3. Diamond Lil

            Nuh uhh, K!

            Needless to say, I also typically forbid that my photo be taken, believing it will “capture” my very soul 🤭🤭🤭

            😂🤣 anyways, no speaky speaky☝️

            My last bit of advice?

            Confidentially, ask for the cookies, not the Lemon bars!😂💎🤭

  19. Memphis

    A.S., honestly the fact “R’Kok” made no mention of the previous claim that disclosure might happen in January is suss as, your clearly “hedging your bets” by not talking about it again incase nothing happens.

    Every channeled message from you sounds the same, there’s no differentiating factors between each “beings” personality.

    No hate, as you claimed to have gone through a burnout lately, but it’s not hard to see that your clearly using your own opinion aswell through these “channeled” messages.

    Peace

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  20. A.S.

    Some additional invitations for nuanced thinking:

    – A statement like “pleiadians have an age bias” doesn’t mean that every single pleiadian has such a bias, or that the bias is huge and all-overriding. If I make a statement about “the Japanese have a certain bias” then I’m also not saying that that statement is true for every single Japanese person, or that it’s a huge all-overriding bias.

    – Almost everyone has biases. Certainly including me. Most likely you have biases too. Frankly on the whole Pleiadians are far less biased than Earth humans, and more willing to work on their biases and try to be even-handed, but yes they still have (not extremely large) biases.

    – It’s ALSO true that many Pleiadians are aware that we’re much more used to dealing with the light and dark than they are, and that our experiences means we’re much more skilled in those areas. Pleiadians are individuals — to which extent they honor Earth humans for their experiences, and to which extent they have which bias, depends on the individual.

    – “We don’t lie” has never meant “we always tell you everything.” Though I’m not aware of any other “snakes under the carpet” other than this, and I talk with my Pleiadian twin flame Einostraee freely. Also, no Pleiadian has asked me not to publish this, and in fact I’ve gotten compliments for this.

    – I think us Earth humans have a strange tendency to latch onto something and think of it a quasi-perfect savior, whether that’s our favorite political party, Trump, government, progressivism, the church, capitalism / free markets, white hats, galactics, etc. But physical beings aren’t perfect (which also doesn’t necessarily mean they’re evil). Ultimately “we’re the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

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    1. Michael

      I have to admit I don’t really follow the comments on your posts, so I don’t know what people have been saying. But if I get the picture right, Pleiadians rarely base their actions on the first couple of things their intuition tells them, and intuition is what Reptilians either lack or tend to completely ignore. Whereas we earth humans often act on a hunch and are right.

      I myself realised that I did many correct and important multidimensional healing things last year that are only now being explained and suggested in channellings – and I didn’t even know what I was doing last year or ~that~ it was right. I only had what I sensed energy-wise and saw with my mind’s eye and then a sudden hit of intuition. Contemplating and imagining things helped me putting my mind and my vibration on the right track as well.
      What I’m trying to say is that maybe the decision-making lessons should include earth human “acting on a hunch and being right” strategies as well.
      I generally like the “Reptilian-Pleiadian-Hybrid” approach as we’re a hybrid culture, but in my opinion it’s absolutely important to include typical earth human strategies in that teaching, if it’s not already done that way. Just a suggestion 😄

      Plus, as an afterthought regarding our age gaps: Would it be possible for galactics to draw on our past life experiences while we still can’t remember most of them? I’m getting better at multidimensional inner work and have a vague feeling that my last incarnation right before the first on earth was a very dark one with a lot of guilt and shame, somehow with a connection to Mintaka or maybe Reptilians. I’m actively healing that, but if they could draw on these experiences, maybe that’s a way we on earth could help via perspectives 🤔

      Best wishes
      Michael

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